tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post5383059792621365905..comments2024-03-26T23:57:42.268-04:00Comments on SpeEdChange: Lord of the Flies: How Adults Create Bullyingirasocolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01412837280249622430noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-61957768127771382692010-07-24T11:05:57.893-04:002010-07-24T11:05:57.893-04:00After two years of excessive bullying of our son a...After two years of excessive bullying of our son at the public school our son was moved to a Charter School that specializes in children with ADHD, Aspburgers, and Learning Disabilities. At public school he stood out for his impulsivity, wandering and general high functioning both mentally and physically. Another student bullied him extensively for two years and we were grateful to have the problems end after the transfer. After a year at the new school the student that had bullied him the most also transfered to the new school. They were instantly best of friends, and have been so for the duration of their time at the new school. <br /> I believe the difference in the two venues is that antisocial t there are like type children at the charter school and what might be perceived as behavior at one place is normal when the students are like type. Jack and Piggy are more similar to each other than they are to the others. One sheepishly continues to back away, but Jack foments his anger from being an outsider into the want for total control so that he can remake things in his image. The "normal" kids at schools dont seem to have the problems when all are the same, but those who are "different" do far better in an environment with like type children. I do use this as a rip to inclusive educations as I have lived through the system, and have helped to guide this new young mind through the beginning of his own journey.Logic Prevaileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16523984351242471699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-20826016712170996362010-07-23T22:09:20.478-04:002010-07-23T22:09:20.478-04:00Great post! I'm sure that having children rea...Great post! I'm sure that having children read this book was intended to make the kids think about human societies and ask themselves the hard questions about the validity of some of the social constructs that are so pervasive. It didn't really occur to me that teachers were teaching it in order to put their students in their place - that might be why I didn't understand some of the questions that were on my son's worksheets.Cherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096208314029157642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-6285856847137029962010-07-23T20:08:00.263-04:002010-07-23T20:08:00.263-04:00@ Ira
I always enjoy reading your posts. They cha...@ Ira<br />I always enjoy reading your posts. They challenge me to think. The grade school my boys attend teaches this book in 8th grade. I'll be forwarding this post along.Charlie Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09335346223868916197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-51263228633065977072010-07-23T20:07:48.412-04:002010-07-23T20:07:48.412-04:00@ Ira
I always enjoy reading your posts. They cha...@ Ira<br />I always enjoy reading your posts. They challenge me to think. The grade school my boys attend teaches this book in 8th grade. I'll be forwarding this post along.Charlie Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09335346223868916197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-45275890516680003802010-07-23T13:06:08.989-04:002010-07-23T13:06:08.989-04:00Incidentally, every time I teach the book, student...Incidentally, every time I teach the book, students end up quoting Pink Floyd in their reflections on power, hierarchy, uniformity and why victims become victimizers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10956056168256756705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-26972365533249940042010-07-23T13:03:24.644-04:002010-07-23T13:03:24.644-04:00When I teach the subject, we deal with the followi...When I teach the subject, we deal with the following themes:<br /><br />1. freedom and safety and the paradox of both<br /><br />2. value systems clashing <br /><br />3. World War I and the belief system that death and violence are necessary for life (this relates to the Rites of Spring concept)<br /><br />4. Conflicting views of humanity (inherently good, evil, both)<br /><br />5. governmental theory & totalitarianism<br /><br />6. Social forces that create an "image culture" with respect to ideas about one's body <br /><br />7. militarism in social institutions (including school) - we also read "Rites of Spring" and cover the notion of "muscular Christianity" and the mythology that boys must be ballers<br /><br />8. bullying as a result of militarism / the notion of victims becoming victimizers<br /><br />We cover the themes as we go and it's part of our humanities unit on the Great War. It relates well to the war poetry of the era as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10956056168256756705noreply@blogger.com