tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post6212837024128018462..comments2024-03-26T23:57:42.268-04:00Comments on SpeEdChange: Adult Communities and School Bulliesirasocolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01412837280249622430noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-68594422664770349702010-09-08T10:34:42.306-04:002010-09-08T10:34:42.306-04:00The public school in my area is "run" by...The public school in my area is "run" by a few kids who's parents have extra money to donate to the school. These kids have total control over the other students. Many many parents have tried to get help from the principal, Board of Ed, even the State Board of Ed, to try to put a stop to the bullying in this school, but nothing ever gets done. It just gets swept under the rug and ignored. Most parents tell me that the bullying got worse after they complained and that the principal and other staff even started bullying their kids. I have two children who I've taken out of the school because of the bullies and because the school refused to do anything to protect them. Most parents don't have the option to send their kids to another school and they have given up trying to get help with the situation and so their kids are just having to deal with it. Although my kids don't go there anymore, I would still like to find a way to help the other parents. If anyone has any sugestions on what we can do please email me at madsmurf2000@yahoo.comJessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00558167361239649558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-87514231669090480272010-09-08T10:03:55.327-04:002010-09-08T10:03:55.327-04:00I have two children who I have had to take out of ...I have two children who I have had to take out of the local public school because of bullying not only by the students but the teachers and principal as well. This school is out of control. The children who "run" this school have full control over the staff and all other students. The sad thing is that this is an elementary school. The worst bully in the school is only ten years old. Why does she have the power she has? Her mother donates money to the school that's why. I'm pretty sure it's drug money at that. There have been many many parents who have begged for help from the principal, board of ed, and even the state dept of ed. Nothing happens. It all gets swept under the rug and innored. The children of the parents who complain then get bullied by the teachers and principal as well as by the children. Parents have given up. They don't know what else to do. Their kids are miserable because their parents aren't fortunate enough to be able to put them in private school or drive them to a different school. I don't send my kids there anymore, but I would still love to be able to help the other kids and their parents. I don't know who to ask for help in this situation. If anyone knows what I can do to help please email me at madsmurf2000@yahoo.com.Jessica Partinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-27797580313198541132009-05-19T17:34:48.459-04:002009-05-19T17:34:48.459-04:00Something today reminded me about this post by And...Something today reminded me about <A HREF="http://qw88nb88.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/school-discipline/" REL="nofollow">this post by Andrea</A> from last July, which touches on similar subjects.The Goldfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15213378454070776331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-57485166072440071542009-05-12T15:50:00.000-04:002009-05-12T15:50:00.000-04:00bullying is fun for bullies. bottom line. the gr...bullying is fun for bullies. bottom line. the great equalizer isn't the gun- it's the court system:<br /><br />http://www.aclu-nj.org/downloads/bullying.pdfvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-3419701328973459002009-05-11T22:30:00.000-04:002009-05-11T22:30:00.000-04:00This seems right, and I especially like your obser...This seems right, and I especially like your observations about the students' stress levels. Blame-shifting also rings true. But along those lines let's not forget that students come to school with some relevant habits and strategies. In my experience bullies tend to be people who are habituated to high-stress environments and therefore manufacture conflictual / chaotic environments in which they enjoy an advantage or at least familiarity. The active presence of adults then acts like damping rods in a nuclear reactor for these radioactive kids, while also modeling a different interactive matrix just as you say.CarlDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10912167329931540545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-16947893496750787532009-05-11T14:04:00.000-04:002009-05-11T14:04:00.000-04:00Excellent post! I have thought for a long time th...Excellent post! I have thought for a long time that the way the schools are run and by whom has a direct impact on how the children learn to socialize. My mother and second grade teacher hated each other and I paid the price - 8 full years of being bullied by the most valued students.<br /><br />The question is, how to we change things. Every time I have suggested to parents that what happens in school is harmful to society as a whole, I get the reply "it was good enough for me!" All teachers need to know more about psychology and sociaology in regards to child development than they do, but that costs money. <br /><br />How do we make it better?Cherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096208314029157642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-35117993507897418972009-05-11T06:16:00.000-04:002009-05-11T06:16:00.000-04:00in addition to bullying and cruelty being modeled ...in addition to bullying and cruelty being modeled in the adult world for kids, many adults just don't think kids are deserving of the same protections they get. If someone burns me with a hot glue gun on purpose, i can call the police. if it happens to my student, a few pictures are taken, out of school suspension for a couple days, and that's it. i think the problem is way over the head of the administration, but they pretend everything is ok, in my opinion, because they are afraid of being replaced. i get involved with every bully incident my kids tell me about. i call parents to tell them to come to the school to complain themselves. i tell them to document and to know that it is the school's responsibility to foster a safe environment at the school (these are immigrant parents, so a lot of times they think they have no rights). but really the kids see what happens to the bullies (and they usually aren't the 'valued' kids, neither are my kids the 'valued' kids). the bullies get a few days vacation from the school and then bully again. so the kids usually don't want to complain because they feel the school doesn't know how to stop it. my husband was a bully. it had more to do with the powerful feeling he got when doing it then getting revenge. he would bully any and everybody. i don't think it had anything to do with the school environment. it had to do with his manifestation of tourette syndrome. he was highly aggressive. the adults in the school kicked him out- he came right back. at that time (not in the US), he even could control adults because of their fear of gangs, which his brothers were in. there has to be some rule of law, or 'might makes right'.vnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-58539887869708616872009-05-11T04:28:00.000-04:002009-05-11T04:28:00.000-04:00No one likes to consider that their own shortcomin...No one likes to consider that their own shortcomings cause children to be violent.<br /><br />Thus, no one considers it. :-)HomerTheBravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18261248973011130957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19457872.post-83858171081445901812009-05-10T12:59:00.000-04:002009-05-10T12:59:00.000-04:00Thanks, I have never thought much about how much a...Thanks, I have never thought much about how much a school's physical environment impacts how we relate to each other. The part about bullying that has been bothering me for quite a while is the way teachers are complicit in it. If, under the guise of discipline, a teacher says something unthinking and cruel to a child in the presence of peers, he/she is modeling bullying. How then can we be surprised when students bully each other. In our workplaces we expect that if our 'superiors' have a complaint against us they will speak to us respectfully and in private. Kids deserve the same consideration. As you said, we must model the behaviour we expect of our students.Anita Stranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12546910483219829858noreply@blogger.com